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Update Dec 29-Jan 1 - Hekou and Kunming, China

4 entries away from being done with the blog, by my reckoning.
While having more free time I find myself with less motivation.
Also - the map is updated, and tells me that by the time I'm done travelling we'll have had intercity travel of 77,471 km, or 1/5 the distance to the moon or 10 times the length of Canada or twice around the world (makes since since we went around the world and took some detours).

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Kunming - Shrinking old town, Jiuxiang caves, stone forest

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After several months of travelling with just Sue, Sue's mom joined us for the rest of our travels starting in Kunming. It was a bit of an adjustment to take on another person who was used to a different sort of travel, but with a bit of compromise on all sides things went quite smoothly. In Kunming we stayed at a business hotel, which had the distinction of having a fully transparent glass wall between the hotel room and the bathroom. We did a pretty good job of always keeping the curtain closed, but it was annoying. I can't imagine business travellers prefering a glass wall instead of the regular type. Also after the first day one of our drinking glasses (which we didn't use) had a crack in it when we got back home. It took Sue about an hour of arguing with reception for us not to get charged for that damage that we didn't cause. In conclusion, the Enjoying Business Hotel in Kunming is no good.

Kunming is a big city of several million people, and though Yunnan is one of China's poorer provinces, Kunming is modern and looks like a Western big city, with high-end shopping and fancy office buildings. The most striking aspect of the city is the area around the old Bird and Flower Market, where a neighborhood of old run-down houses and shops literally borders new fancy malls. As we were walking there we passed one street that seems to be condemned for demolition, and I suspect that 10 years hence there will be no old Kunming. All these pics are taken around this area (equivalent in location, say, to the new Ryerson business school building in Toronto that backs onto the Eaton Center). I like the third pic, showing a second floor of a building that's falling apart, and a ground floor that's a modern jacket shop.

The other interesting historical feature is two pagodas across from each other 2 blocks apart, with temples and sculptures between them. One of them was rebuilt because of damage suffered several years ago - according to China due to an earthquake; according to the West the damage was due to Muslim citizen unrest.

Watching a game of Mahjong. The old guys sure take a long time between moves.

Sue with a horse, and me admiring the jockey

Another unexpected feature of the Kunming skyline is what appears to be a flat 30-storey billboard but is in fact a 3-dimensional 3-sided hotel. Here is a view where we can (barely) see the second side. From most of the city the hotel seems 2-dimensional.

From Kunming we took 3 day trips: the Yunnan Nationalities Village, the Jiuxiang caves, and the Stone forest. The Yunnan Nationalities Village features mini-villages (with a few buildings, a few people, and small cultural performances) from about a dozen ethnic minorities living in the province, which itself has the most minorities among Chinese provinces. In comparison to Mini-Asean and Mini-Malaysia, this is much more varied and much less well laid out. To take the best of both, it would be nice if the Kunming one had less gift shops, a consistent layout of mini-villages (some houses are gift shops, others are museums, others are furnished houses - and it's sometimes not clear which it is - whereas in Malaysia they are all furnished houses), better labelling, and if there were a clear circuit between them (in Malaysia they are side by side in a circle, whereas in Kunming they are sort of anywhere).

While the Village was just OK, the highlight is an hour-long music and dance show which is worth the hefty price of admission and would not be out of place in Toronto, London, or New York (probably similar to the Africa one that was advertised aggressively in Toronto a few years ago). The cast is about 100 people, and at one point it rains on stage (for about 5 minutes there is actual water "rain" for about a foot wide along the entire length of the stage. The floor retracts so that the water lands in a foot-wide area under the stage).

Our other two day trips were with the same company, and included peripheral stops in the same gift shops, temple, and health center where we got a slightly painful foot message (the first and last definitely pay commissions to the tour company, and the temple might). The daylong tour including extra stops, lunch, transport, and guide is actually cheaper than admission alone to the main site.

One of the gift shops had a line of employees at each of the entrances, presumably there to make me feel like special as I walk past them and to justify the inflated prices.

Jiuxiang caves

Jiuxiang caves are incredible - not only for all that one would expect from caves - the spikes from the ceilings and floors and the large spaces where the ceiling is natural rock and seems not to be supported by anything, but also for the amount of work that has been done to make the natural site tourist-accessible. Everything is colorfully lit up, there are very few narrow spaces and some large areas of polished floors, making me wonder how much the site was changed from its natural state. Either way, the size (over a kilometer across, with the 'ceilings' generally about 5 stories high) and variety of things in the scenic area are amazing.
Our tour started with a boat ride on a river that cuts through a gorge. It was a good gorge, very cliffy, but not as fun as the gorge in Turkey.

Here is a polished floor inside the caves. It is massive and must have taken a lot of work to go from cave floor to this.

Colored lights make the conic formations all the prettier.

At some points the top ones meet the bottom ones, forming columns.

Inside another cave are layered pools, caused by water overflowing from the pool above. Similar to the ones we didn't see at the calcium rocks in Turkey, but bigger and fuller of water.

Indoor (sort of) waterfall

Reflecting water pool

View from the cable car to get back to where we started

Taoist/Buddhist complex

Here is a temple that was important during one of the dynasties. As the story goes (as told by Sue and half-forgotten by me), the emperor gave one of his trusted generals principality over this district. That general was power-hungry. In China, temples are built in a straight line and the one furthest back belongs to the emperor (symbolizing the emperor presiding over everything). So this temple complex was built, and afterwards the general had another temple - his own - built beyond the emperor's. A monk, sensing that the general was bad and trying to usurp power, foiled the general's plans to become emperor by building another temple. This new temple caused a change in the orientation of the straight line of temples that ends with the emperor's, and thus made the general's temple not be part of the line (let alone at the top of the line). As such, that general never became emperor.
Now I personally don't really like how symbolism, mythology, and facts blend in official Chinese history, but it makes a good story.
The actual temple complex has a bunch of Buddhist temples at the front, and Taoist temples at the back. The first time we went the guide said non-Taoists can't go to the back temples, but the second time I went almost all the way up and saw a bunch more temples and 2 big buddhas.
Many of the people on the tour paid to have their fortunes read, which possibly pays commissions to the tour company - that's the only reason I can imagine that both tours included the temple.
Here is a view of part of the line of temples. Because of trees blocking the view from the top of the mountan and temples blocking the view from the bottom, it is hard to get a good view of the whole complex.

Here are all of us in front of a fountain

I think these are some Taoist happy men. There are supposed to only be 3, so maybe these are just Taoist men.

A modest Taoist temple

Big Buddha

Roofs of some of the temples in the fancy line of temples

Another Big Buddha

Stone Forest

Complementing the caves and not too far away is a 'stone forest' composed of tall, narrow rocks that were formed as coral when the area was under the sea.

Views from above

In front of an area that's landscaped to look like a golf course

Huang's Health Systems

Here is the gift shop that was the last stop in our tours both days, offering free foot massage, many products which among other things cure cancer and make Western cancer treatments unnecessary (according to the doctor), and a shopping area that's shaped like a maze so that once you go in you have to walk through all the aisles. If you didn't know better you would think it's a legitimate health center.

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Hekou - Border town in the second-deliciousest country

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As slaves to overnight bus and train schedules, we found ourselves with a day to spend along the Vietnam/China border of Lao Cai/Hekou, and decided to spend it on the China side, as China has the world's second-best food after Thailand.

Here is Sue on the bridge between the two countries, enthusiatically about to enter China.

As a busy border town in the developing world, we see a lot of cool stuff - long lines of people with huge full bamboo bags being balanced on bikes and open shipping containers, cheaper alternatives to truck transport.

An assortment of chickens, ducks, geese, bunnies and puppies can be yours for dinner.

Or, if you're feeling high-end and patriotic, you can have a jade Chairman Mao for a few thousand dollars.

I love the baby backpacks in Asia. So much easier than carrying them in front. My only concern would be forgetting, and leaning on the baby when I'm sitting on a chair.

A restaurant serving only the freshest donkey. Glad it's not me.

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Update Dec 20-28 - Vietnam

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Published Jan 18
Vietnam postings are up.
After Vietnam we went to China, which is cold at this time of year, met up with Sue's mom, and went around Yunnan province for 10 days or so before going to Sue's grandma's home . We'll be there until after Chinese New Year.

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Hanoi - Lovely city, shame about the people

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Hanoi is the capital of Vietnam and second-largest city in the country. Perhaps because of its location in the North of the country and as the country's political capital (and thus more influenced by struggles against foreign powers), or perhaps because the people there are just jerks, foreigner pricing here is extreme and shameless.

At the Lenin monument, there was a stand selling Timbits which seemed very popular with schoolchildren. I asked the price for a bag, ordered one, and was given two timbits for that price. I refused and took my money back - and when I asked the kids how much they paid, they asked the vendor what they should tell me. As I was leaving the vendor followed me for a few minutes, lowering her price a few times (but I'm sure keeping it at several times what locals pay).

There is an old university complex, where the elite would study hundreds of years ago. The turtle sculptures were stelea built in honour of people that passed the hardest exam (equivalent to doctorates), one for each that passed. They are to be respected and not ridden.

A big bell inside the complex

The Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum Complex and Botanical Garden was mostly closed at the time of our visit (with many signs on sidewalks saying 'no entry beyond this point', meaning we could only see half the area on foot), but the parts we could see housed fancy buildings and a nice park.

A few statues honoring Vietnam's war heroes, who bravely fought enemies using oversized 3-pronged plugs. Not sure that's something to be proud of. Well maybe their bravery.

We saw a motorbike/bicycle collision at a roundabout where we stopped for lunch. The bike guy was unconscious and had to be lifted to the sidewalk by the motorbike guy that collided with him. After a few minutes of him lying on the sidewalk, the lady that owned the store he was on the sidewalk in front of started yelling at the other guy (presumably to take the guy away from her store), who then dragged him across the street. The bike guy eventually came to, stumbled, threw up, refused money from the guy that hit him, and continued along his route.

The main tourist area is centered around a lake, that has 2 pagodas on islands and is surrounded by an old town with cheap shoes, tourist shops with overpriced postcards (the prices start at 10 times the HCMC price, and can be negotiated down to double the HCMC price), a KFC (free washrooms), and a Water Puppet Theatre (for which tickets were sold out).

Final bit of foreigner pricing - Sue wanted me to get a haircut, so I went to a barbershop, waited in line, the guy in front of me got out and paid 15,000 dong, and then I asked how much for a haircut. The barber said 50,000. I glared and walked out. Then I waited in line at another barber, this one being just an old guy with scissors in an alley. The guy in front of me finished, paid 10,000, and I asked the price. He said 100,000. I was struck by a few things about the exchange: that they foreigner price even for non-touristy things like haircuts; that they charge so much ($7 for a haircut in an alley in Vietnam); and that they are so shameless - both times they knew that I saw how much the people ahead of me paid, and they nonetheless tried to charge me several times the correct price.

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